Conversation With Sat- Jan 28, 2025

Sat joins the call for the first time in the new year, after the group has spent the last 4 weeks talking about & contemplating on Trust- specifically the Trust Meditation.

Question 1: Is trust the same as faith? Is it something that we can help ourselves to have a stronger faith and trust like Jesus said? Does it have to come from an inner experience only, or is there a way to accelerate and empower our trust and or faith?

Sat: We can name it whatever we want to. You don’t trust in something that you do not have faith in. I am not sure they are one and the same, but you either trust the words, or you have faith in what is being said and then you trust it to be good. But it really doesn’t matter, it is just a play of words- whatever sits in your heart.
When Jesus says that it is important to have faith to be healed, it is just half of the story. You can have faith in somebody on the street but he still cannot heal you. The Consciousness of the healer has to be completely devoid of two, devoid of opposites.
In other words, where people see disease or incurable disease, a Pure Consciousness or a Christ Consciousness does not see it that way. That is also a very, very big point to make- that faith alone can only take you so far, but the Source that you have faith in also has to be a holy source.
We can have faith in our government or even trust our government, but that doesn’t mean they are going to do us any good. It is two way. Baba says it is like positive and negative electricity, when they come together, then the miracles happen.

Adrienne: So, what would be the source then? Would it be our inner?

Sat: Do you mean where is the source of Trust?
Adrienne: Yes. What would You say our source of Trust is that we have to trust [in]?

Sat: Whatever you trust in. Each person trusts something different. Some trust outside, in a Guru, or the form of God. In Hinduism, for example they have trust in Ganesh, they have trust in whatever. Or you can have trust in the reality of God within your own self. You can trust the Omnipresent. You can trust the Promise; that is why the Promise is there and Jesus pointed to that Trust in the Promise- that there is an infinite Source within yourself that when you don’t take anxious thought, you will see that it is already there. Perfection is already there!
But a lot of people put their trust or their faith in the wrong place, or the source of their supply or the source of their wellbeing in the wrong place, and therefore they don’t get permanent peace, permanent healing, etc.
Our belief system has brought us to our knees- believing that this can kill, believing that that is harmful, believing that ‘I have to do this or that …’ all of these belief systems made a human out of God. Now not only are we seeing this belief system and the trust system that we had as useless & harmful, but now we have a Source to rely on that is inseparable from us.
Trust Meditation in a real nutshell is going beyond the mind, that is what Trust Meditation is. Meaning that you are not listening to the suggestions; you are going beyond it where there is healing, where there is the Omnipresent Self.

Question 2: How do we know we are trusting enough and doing it right?

Sat: Trust is not about you trusting yourself that you are doing a good job. The questioner is having a problem trusting their own Trust- that is activity of the mind! When you believe that there is an Omniscient, Omnipotent, Omnipresent Self, a capital Self, that you can call higher mind, open heart, whatever you want to name it, God, etc. And you have understood beyond the shadow of a doubt that the world disappoints you at every turn. Why would you not, why would you debate about trusting what is being said, that “If I don’t take thoughts … meaning my mind is quiet.” At that point, we realize that we are not the doer and the doing goes perfectly with a perfection of the higher Self.
Look around, see how perfect the butterflies’ design is, look around and see the different fishes underneath the water with a numberless amount of designs on them & personalities & instinct! Can we not say that this Perfection is just mind blowing? Can we not look at a tree and say “What makes this tree be alive?” If we give a little bit of a deep attention to everything in nature, it blows our mind. How, how, how?
Then we go back to the perfection of everything, when it is untouched, it is left alone! What makes it imperfect is, imperfect thoughts, beliefs, concepts, acceptance! So, why would we not trust the Promise and not debate about “Am I trusting good enough?” That is how you know you are letting go, for instance all of a sudden, your thoughts sink to your heart. All of a sudden, you release this tension and resistance. That is when you know you are doing it. It might come up again, it’s ok, until our faith is more in the trust than it is in the fear and resistance to a situation. It is a constant work; I am telling you guys. It is a constant choice, it is a constant sorting out, which to accept and which to spit out.
Each step forward though you will feel much happier, much freer. You really do! As you all on the phone have experienced. Before & after! Too bad we did not take pictures of ourselves for a before & after. (Laughs) if [only] someone had taken a video of Me on My first trip to India, screaming and crying, being so miserable.

Adrienne: I have also been thinking about how our belief system has brought us to our knees. Thank You for saying that.
Sat: Yes. I am glad you are seeing it. It is really good to be able to see it. It is not a negative approach, it is very positive, you are diagnosing the thief, you are arresting the thief!

Question 3: In another one of Your meditations, You say “Sit back and Trust.” Is that different from taking intuitive action?

Sat: Yes, that is what it means. It means to let go of your imaginary struggle. In that, like you said Adrienne, there is an intuitive prompting. It is a magnificent life when you live your life by intuition. But you have to tune your ears in for it.

Question 4: In another one of Your meditations, You have said "Now, where does the action come in? If the action is just for the sake of action, not for the sake of fear, duty, obligation- do it. You are free, but remember, Trust! But the way I see it, it nullifies it. It depends on how much understanding you have of what I am saying to you." (After Livestream, 9.11.24)
My question is what do You mean by “nullify” it?
Adrienne: You may have already talked about this.

Sat: Yes, I think we did. We talked about that, so we are just going to let it go. By the way, thank you so much Adrienne. You did a great job. You did it for an entire month, which we hadn’t had before. If anyone would like to share the fruit of this month, please come forward.

Kumud: I wanted to say that reviewing this one subject and also digging out the old material, such as excerpts from the book Nazannine, etc. going back to the basics, was very helpful for me actually. Sometimes we don’t realize how much we have learned in the past and now when it comes back again, we see that we understand it better now, whereas the first time I read it, I didn’t fully understand it. Now that we are re-reviewing it, it is very helpful to me. Thank You.

Sat: What a good point, it is really, really good to go back to the beginning and review. It is a really, really good reinforcement.

Radha: I wanted to share that even before this month, when You brought our attention to true Trust, what it really means and going to a deeper understanding of it, I now see that when I have a worry or anxiety and I remember Trust, it almost closes the door on the world and the picture at large. What has been happening is much less belief in the world and what it is showing me. I am so grateful for that.

Sat: Yes, the more the Trust has matured in you, the less you believe the world. The less you believe the world, the stronger the Trust becomes. It is a beautiful situation in the world right now guys. It is so easy to see the craziness of it. It is so easy to see that the people who give advice freely and almost aggressively to the listeners or to others- are totally blind in ignorance. It is really easy to see and let it go. Whereas before, there was so much decency that it was hard to not believe if somebody gave wrong advice as being something right. But now we can diagnose it easily. This is why they say this is the time that you can either sink your boat or reach the destination. It depends on where your mind is at.
On that note, we can put our hand on our heart for a moment and be grateful for being in this lifetime a soul that is after freedom rather than bondage. Namste to all of you.

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